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FiveWIN xHarbour Dev enviornment in Tablet
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 07:48 AM

Hi All ,
Today in the market there are so many types of Tablets and with different Operating Systems. I would like know that can we create a Development enviornment of FiveWin / xHarbour (as PC ) in Tablets ? if yes what is best suitable setup for FWH Development enviornment ?

Thanks in advance..!

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Shridhar

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Shridhar

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Re: FiveWIN xHarbour Dev enviornment in Tablet
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:29 AM

Shridhar,

The best would be a Windows 8 tablet (Surface) with x86 support (not ARM).

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Re: FiveWIN xHarbour Dev enviornment in Tablet
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:01 AM

Hi Antonio ,

Thanks..! But its too costly. Is it possible to load vitrual box in Andriod Tablet and install Windows OS 7. Are you using any Tablet ? if yes could please mention the details.

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Shridhar

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Re: FiveWIN xHarbour Dev enviornment in Tablet
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:09 AM

Shridar,

You could run the app on a Windows server and use it from any tablet using VNC

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Re: FiveWIN xHarbour Dev enviornment in Tablet
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:51 PM

Hi Antonio ,

So the Tabets (ARM) are just for internet browsing and email checking thats all ?

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Shridhar

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Re: FiveWIN xHarbour Dev enviornment in Tablet
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 01:23 PM

Hello Shridhar,
I agree with you.
Regards,
Otto

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Re: FiveWIN xHarbour Dev enviornment in Tablet
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 02:04 PM

Shridhar,

There are several choices:

  1. Native apps (Android, iOS, Win8)
  2. Web apps (on a compatible internet browser)
  3. Remote apps on VNC
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Re: FiveWIN xHarbour Dev enviornment in Tablet
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 03:22 PM

Hi Antonio,
Android systems are every day more popular and low cost.
Any news regarding development of FiveDroid project?

Regards,

George

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Re: FiveWIN xHarbour Dev enviornment in Tablet
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 03:27 PM

+1

Saludos

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Re: FiveWIN xHarbour Dev enviornment in Tablet
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 03:37 PM
+1

George wrote:Hi Antonio,
Android systems are every day more popular and low cost.
Any news regarding development of FiveDroid project?

Regards,

George
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Re: FiveWIN xHarbour Dev enviornment in Tablet
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 04:17 PM

George, hmPaquito

FiveDroid was mainly developed to check if it was possible to interface the java GUI code with Harbour.

It was possible :-) and in fact we could extend it to provide enough functionality.

We simply have delayed it until there is enough interest about it. We too agree that Android is becoming more and more important.

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Re: FiveWIN xHarbour Dev enviornment in Tablet
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 04:30 PM
Good news Antonio!

With $139 hardware list price, like the system below:

Double Power M-975 with WiFi 9.0" Touchcreen Tablet PC:

Technical Specifications:
1.2GHz processor
512MB DDR3 of system memory and 8GB on-board storage memory
9.0" touchscreen, 800 x 480 resolution
Built-in 802.11b/g/n WiFi
Additional Features:
8GB on-board storage memory, additional memory via microSD card slot
Webcam
1080p HD video playback
Auto-rotation
Up to 5 hours of run time on a full charge
Weighs 1.1 lbs; 9.4" x 0.5" x 5.8" dimensions
Software and Applications:
Android 4.0 OS (Ice Cream Sandwich)
eBook Reader, Games
Android Appstore (for applications)
Media Formats: Popular media formats
What's in the Box:
Tablet, AC adapter and USB Cable

What's a Tablet PC?

Tablet PCs are compact, ultra-portable entertainment devices that let you read email, surf the internet, read eBooks, view photos, play games, listen to music and watch video files. Most tablets are based on a smaller operating system, which allows you to purchase and download additional applications from supported stores. Tablet PCs do not have a CD/DVD drive and will not run Microsoft Windows or its applications. Tablet PCs function as a secondary device for casual entertainment purposes, and are not meant to replace a computer. They are ideal for use around the home and on the go with Wi-Fi or 3-4g mobile broadband connections (pay as you go, contract may be required for service).

Check out our entire selection of tablets. Shop tablet PCs by screen size, price and brand on Walmart.com.
Note: M975 has built-in Mic and Skype works fine on this tablet. Skype is not pre-installed but customer can download it for free from pre-installed Google Play.


Fivedroid developers will have a BIG business opportunity.

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Re: FiveWIN xHarbour Dev enviornment in Tablet
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 04:45 PM

I would urge a caution. Many Droid devices "now" are being sold at a price below cost. This will not last very long.

ARM devices are essentially designed to run apps that exist on the web. The amount of local storage capacity is very limited.

Antonio was correct. The Surface Pro ( or compatible devices ) are your best options for a BUSINESS solution. I am using a Samsung Slate with Win 8 installed. These are full computers.

You might look at apps that are developed for iOS and Android ( plus WIn 8 RT ). They have limited capabilities. Those that interact with a business size database do so through a cloud interface.

The other issue is image of your business ! Android has lots of very poor quality software available. I don't work in that marketplace. I work with people who want a serious business solution.

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Re: FiveWIN xHarbour Dev enviornment in Tablet
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 05:13 PM

I think it depends greatly on the type of client that you want to achieve or sell your services, 95% of the fortune 500 list uses active directory (Windows server), much of the fortune 100 uses tablets or phones of Apple, some studies suggest adopting solutions with tablets windows 8 (RT or PRO).

Android does have some tablets, phones at low cost, funded by Google, which sells at cost to win in advertising, but according to studies, those who purchase this type of product, this is not interested in buying apps.
These inexpensive devices will never receive the latest version of Android, meaning buyers without getting updates with security flaws or will have to use modified firmware (root), in both cases not think it's good business for a company to use for businesses.

just my 2c.

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Re: FiveWIN xHarbour Dev enviornment in Tablet
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 05:18 PM
Fivedroid developers will have a BIG business opportunity
.
I have bought this device. Here they call it Q3 and in the extension "surf".
But on an Android all is a bit different to operate. Coming from WINDOWS you have to learn to operate the system.
What sense does this make.

George,
on which type of software do you think?
Best regards,
Otto

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