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Web-based vs. Desktop Software: Which Is Better?
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 05:58 PM

Hello,
In our company, we think about to use for new projects mod harbour.
The journey begins.
What do you think is time ready for canceling desktop development?

Best regards
Otto

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Re: Web-based vs. Desktop Software: Which Is Better?
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 02:49 PM

Otto,
the first question is: development time?
console
desktop
web based

Marco Boschi
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Re: Web-based vs. Desktop Software: Which Is Better?
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 08:45 PM

Hello Marco,
What do you mean be development time?
I think it is more or less for all variants more or less the same.

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Otto

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Re: Web-based vs. Desktop Software: Which Is Better?
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 08:48 AM

Otto,
I mean
for the same application program: how many hours to develop it if I develop it:
- in console mode
- desktop mode
- web base mode

and then the inevitable changes that the customer asks for
Have a nice day
marco

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Re: Web-based vs. Desktop Software: Which Is Better?
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 09:49 AM
Hello Marco,
I think that web development is more comfortable today as desktop.
With mod harbour you have exactly your harbour on the backend, and as a frontend you can use all the possibilities that web development offers today.
There are so many finished modules. The screens are inherently responsive.
There are already several mod harbor frameworks. You can use to FIVEWIN style to develop you frontend.
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Otto
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Re: Web-based vs. Desktop Software: Which Is Better?
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 09:51 AM

Hello Marco,
Please post a little FIVEWIN sample, and we can try all together to transform it to web.

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Otto

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Re: Web-based vs. Desktop Software: Which Is Better?
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:28 AM
mod_harbour really provides us the easy path to the web using Harbour:

http://www.modharbour.org

Time to become web developers using our loved Harbour :-)
regards, saludos

Antonio Linares
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Re: Web-based vs. Desktop Software: Which Is Better?
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 01:45 PM

Hi to all .

I think that in web application , forms and list are very important .

Is the design of screen integrated in modharbor ?
Is modharbor able to convert a RC file to HTML code ?

Could you clarify this aspect ?

Thanks for all the job ,

Philippe

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Re: Web-based vs. Desktop Software: Which Is Better?
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 05:43 PM

Yes, we could develop for the web, but I do not believe the desktop will go away:

1). All of the sample I see for web development use small data displays. What if you have a business application that needs to display 40 or 50 fields ? How efficient is that ?

2). Consider a data intensive business, where many people are inputting a lot of data at the same time. How efficient is that ?

3). Not everyone has fast, reliable, internet connections. For example, some of my clients have 10 computers all inputting large amounts of data at the same time. They are small businesses, but their work tracks a lot of data. Do they have web connections that will support 10 computers simultaneously inputting or editing large amounts of data.

The desktop/local server ( or client server ) model works great with this for ALL of my clients. However internet services would not allow them the same reliability. If the net goes down, they are without their business application and service might not resume for 24-72 hours. That is a long time without the data they need.

The web works fine for some things, but is not the best solution, at least for my clients, at the present time.

Tim

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Re: Web-based vs. Desktop Software: Which Is Better?
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 06:58 PM

Hello Tim,
Please test yourself.

https://www.modharbour.club/accounting/index.prg

Here I am starting an accounting system.
Test this:
Anzeige-
Druckprogramme

-> Kontendatei
Here editing inside browse is working fine. You can use arrow up and arrow down and Enter - key.
If you change the name you see that browse is repositioned. Change a name starting with A to M and test.

I think speed is fine.

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Otto

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Re: Web-based vs. Desktop Software: Which Is Better?
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 08:02 AM

Hello,
you can use

https://www.modharbour.club/accounting/index.prg

my@email.com
and
1234

Best regards,
Otto

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Re: Web-based vs. Desktop Software: Which Is Better?
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 08:07 AM

Hello Marco,
here you have a link how the server hosting this page looks like:

viewtopic.php?f=3t=38393p=229180hilit=pfsense#p229180

https://www.modharbour.club/accounting/index.prg

my@email.com
and
1234

Best regards,
Otto

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Re: Web-based vs. Desktop Software: Which Is Better?
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 02:11 PM

Hi,

What about FORMS ?

For the speed, i thing that all Bank have a web platform in other to find or encode information .

Thanks .

Philippe

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Re: Web-based vs. Desktop Software: Which Is Better?
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 02:15 PM

Hello Philippe,
what do you mean by FORMS?
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Otto

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Re: Web-based vs. Desktop Software: Which Is Better?
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 04:54 PM

Otto,
Forms is dialog , it is all about Say Get Listbox Combo Xbrowse .

It is what is displayed on screen .

Thanks,

Philippe