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Data management system
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 03:39 PM
Hello,

Is there a sample or tip for a Data management system ?

During progress in development of programs, but also in retrieving info/samples etc from the forum I'm looking for a program that can holt all kind off stuff.
These kind of programs exist, maybe also from FW users ?

I'm thinking of a Xbrowse that shows a tree (tree is Mr. Rao's)



Master could be "Databases Project 1" Accounts = "Customers" and then the structure of the database (maybe a memo field ?) This helps while programming because I ofthen need to know hox the
fieldname is... so all dbf's from a project are insite Database project 1

Transactions could be "FWSamples"
Xbrwowse
Settings for Xbrowse
here a memo field where the sample code would be copied to from the forum
todbf()
here samples from the forum
TDatabase
Sample from James
here the sample text
Sample from Mr. Rao and ...
here the sample
TODO manager
Webshop
Test connection with shop
Connect to Chimp
Fwin
Update to latest version

I hope that what i'm trying to say make sence

In general a software utility that we can copy text into (maybe even screenshots) and that can be opend with a key combination to popup.
Marc Venken

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Re: Data management system
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 07:57 PM

I often find the need to take notes, and then look back on them perhaps months ( years ) later. I also wanted to keep track of my databases ( file name, indexes, fields, structure, and purpose of each one ).

I decided to use OneNote from Microsoft because it can work across all devices. You can do extensive organization, so I have various Chapters, and then pages. You can find whatever you want in moments, it supports Copy and Paste, you can put in charts and photos, and so much more.

Of course I have some sections on non-technical things. Since I can access it on any computer, tablet, notebook, or phone, on all OS's, it's my saved resource center. It stores the info in the cloud so it can be synchronized across any device.

Tim

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Re: Data management system
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:53 PM
TimStone wrote:I often find the need to take notes, and then look back on them perhaps months ( years ) later. I also wanted to keep track of my databases ( file name, indexes, fields, structure, and purpose of each one ).

I decided to use OneNote from Microsoft because it can work across all devices. You can do extensive organization, so I have various Chapters, and then pages. You can find whatever you want in moments, it supports Copy and Paste, you can put in charts and photos, and so much more.

Of course I have some sections on non-technical things. Since I can access it on any computer, tablet, notebook, or phone, on all OS's, it's my saved resource center. It stores the info in the cloud so it can be synchronized across any device.

Tim


Thanks Tim,

I looked into OneNote and indeed, it can do all that I want. (Copy/Paste, save screenshots, links, ...)
Marc Venken

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Re: Data management system
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 08:32 AM
Mark,
this is my solution.
Best regards,
Otto
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Re: Data management system
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 09:51 AM
Tim,

I use Onenote a lot. But to memorize source code, is not as flexible as an own written tool. Speed matters!

At the moment, I am working on a mod harbour interface to this program.

Best regards,
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Re: Data management system
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 09:41 PM

I also have a tool called snipkeeper.

viewtopic.php?f=3t=26900p=149323hilit=snipkeeper#p149323

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Re: Data management system
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:31 AM
Otto wrote:I also have a tool called snipkeeper.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26900&p=149323&hilit=snipkeeper#p149323


Otto,

It seems that you also have several interesting tools... maybe some are available to us ? Have you centralised them somewhere on your site ?
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Re: Data management system
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 01:10 AM

Otto,

As the years stretch on, I have not kept my "documentation" current ... and when I get time I likely will update it. I'm sure a tool can be great, but there are so many projects for me to tackle so I haven't gone down that road.

In the old Clipper days, we used to have many documenting tools that made this all so easy. Maybe I'll revisit the old Oasis website and see if some have source that could be updated to 32 bit. They all went away with 16 bit DOS.

Tim

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Re: Data management system
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 09:17 AM

Tim, forget about the old Clipper programs.
We have xBrowse and we can store RTF into memofields.

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Otto

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Re: Data management system
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:21 PM

Otto,

The Oasis had many excellent tools we could use with our programming, including formatting and documenting programs. They ran automatically on a .prg file and did an awesome job. However, they were all 16 bit.

I have UE Studio which can do some of that work. However, in the early Clipper days, people were very creative in making tools for the language. I think today most developers focus more on the code they write for the marketplace.

Tim

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Re: Data management system
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 09:45 AM
Hello Marc,

Docklands is a mod harbour project of mine to write and read html files.
I try to develop a little Content-Authoring-Tool.
Now I start using for source code documentation.

https://mybergland.com/fwforum/docu.mp4

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Re: Data management system
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 07:31 PM

Hey Otto,

Great...

I started to use Onenote like Tim said. Great tool, multi platform and 'ready to use'

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Re: Data management system
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 07:42 PM

Hello Marc,
I use OneNote for years. I like handwriting. But for code documentation, I use Help & Manual, and now I start with Docklands.

When I started with OneNote, there was no API available. Now it seems there is one. So you maybe you can address single pages from other tools. At the moment I send an email with the note. Maybe there is a better way.
But I think you always need 365. I prefer my data on my own machine.
Best regards,
Otto

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Re: Data management system
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:06 PM

Otto,

One Note is stand alone across all platforms. You use the cloud ( OneDrive ) to keep a copy online so you can access if from any device, but you are not required to do that. You can save your notebook to a local machine only.

I do use the cloud synchronization because I put things in there I want to access on my iMac, iPad, iPhone, MacBook Pro, and Windows computers. I also run Windows on my macs using Parallels, and so I have dual copies. It all works well. In addition, if you are using Remote Desktop among computers, you can access it that way.

It also has sharing capabilities. I'm not saying it's the perfect solution, but it's a very useful tool.

Tim

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Re: Data management system
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 09:56 AM
Tim,

I know OneNote and have been using it since version 1.
As I said, mainly for taking notes with the stylus on the Surface.

But your own tool gives you exactly what you need.
You can change it, and it will do what you want.

I also use OneNote daily, like a notepad on my desk, and it's great software.

It may also be possible to program it using the API today. When I started with OneNote, there was no interface.
That's why I developed my own tool.

Sincerely
Otto