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Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 09:07 PM

Hi Iris,

Would you be so kind as to write down the specifications of the software we use for our SERVERBOOKs?

Best regards,

Otto

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Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 04:57 AM

Hello,

for our Serverbooks we are using Windows Server Standard 2019 or a higher version with per device licensing.

There are running dozens of servers - we are installing about 2-3 servers/month with this software without having troubles.

Per system we have 5-7 active users who only get REMOTEDESKTOPUSER-rights and one Administrator.

Kind regards

Iris

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Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 04:59 AM

Dear Iris,

many thanks for sharing that info

best regards

regards, saludos

Antonio Linares
www.fivetechsoft.com
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Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 09:29 AM

This is interesting info.

To me they offered to take the server and user licences in a pack of 5

I received folowing quot :

1) 1 Windows Server 2022 Standard - 16 Core License Pack = 1.144,00

2) 5 Windows Server 2022 - 1 User CAL 49,00 € 49,00 = € 245,00 €

  • installing around 250 euro

Including CPU it is 3445 euro, but this is a heavy price and heavy machine I think.

What do you think of these prices ?

CPU was : 3.445 euro (including software) see below

1 PowerEdge T150

PowerEdge T150

Chassis 4 x 3.5in Cabled

2x 480GB SSD

Intel Xeon E-2314

16GB

Dual-Port 1GbE

S150 Software RAID-controller

iDRAC9 Enterprise

3 Year ProSupport

5x Windows Server 2022 RDS USER CALs

5x Windows Server 2022 USER CALs

1x Windows Server 2022 Standard ROK 16CORE

Marc Venken

Using: FWH 23.08 with Harbour
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Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 09:06 PM

Dear Marc,

I think the prices are about right, with the Server 2019 version likely being a bit cheaper.

We are reducing expenses through the use of "Serverbooks".

For example, we have the following device in continuous use without any issues: HP ProBook 440 G8.

I am aware of the concerns against a notebook, but I cannot confirm them. We only experience advantages with it - including the screen, easy handling, space-saving.

Compared to the 'real' servers, these devices are simply more lightweight. I can't recall any hardware failures in over 10 years.

We back up using Windows Server Backup on three hard drives and to our Cloud with Synology.

Kind regards,

Iris

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Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 09:14 PM

P.S.: You could perform the installation on your existing notebook, and test it within the 3-month grace period - so there would be no expenses for now.

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Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:07 PM

hi,

Server 2019 Support will be "outdate" on 09 Jan 2024

in old Day we had Windows Small Business Server

Server "Essential" is new since 2012 and "replace" SBS

Server "Essential" Version is much cheaper than Server Standard

it "include" CAL for 25 User / 50 Device and NO "extra" CAL are need ( only for RDS )


while Server 2019 "can" be installed on "old" Hardware, which is not Windows 11 compatible,

you NEED TPM & Secure-Boot för newer Server Version

E-Core, which newer Intel Desktop CPU have, does not work with Windows Server ( XEON does not have E-Core )

have not try Ryzen CPU and Windows Server yet

greeting,

Jimmy
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Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 08:22 PM

Jimmy,

It is RDS that we are going to use.

Marc Venken

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Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 05:39 PM
hi Marc,
Marc Venken wrote:It is RDS that we are going to use.
so what :?:

Server "Essential" CAN user RDS like Server "Standard" :!:

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Server "Essential" is a OEM-Version and "normal" you get it as Bundle with Hardware
but you can legal buy that OEM-Version and use it
greeting,

Jimmy

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