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Cgallegoa
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Checking In / Is the Forum Active?
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2025 05:25 PM

Hope everything is fine! Just checking the forum is still active, as it's been surprisingly quiet over the last two days. Looking forward to new posts!

Best regards

Saludos,



Carlos Gallego



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TimStone
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Re: Checking In / Is the Forum Active?
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2025 05:35 PM

It is but perhaps people are investigating other resources.

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Verhoven
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Re: Checking In / Is the Forum Active?
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2025 12:10 PM

In these times all of us have fallen in love with IA's, me be we have no time for friends and only spend out time with our new girlfriend...

Otto
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Re: Checking In / Is the Forum Active?
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2025 08:19 AM

AI is noticeably reducing forum activity. In the Harbour/xBase/FiveWin world, a shared roadmap is missing. The question is: What goals should we set?

Otto
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Re: Checking In / Is the Forum Active?
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2025 08:37 AM
In another forum I read, I recently saw these replies to a question. Out of sheer perplexity, a new subclass emerged: pure Dadaism. After someones matter-of-fact diagnosis (“RTL = Runtime Library; probably a wrong/different xpprt*.dll in the search path”), the thread tipped into chain-nonsense: “Mustard or ketchup?”, “Just trim the very tips!”, “Outside we only serve by the pot!”, “The quirkier, the swooshier.” → classic forum Dadaism

xDadaism.implement()
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class xDataism
method streamOfTokens() =>
["Mustard vs. ketchup: A/B test",
"Trim endpoints only // preserve signal",
"outdoorService = potOnly(true)",
"↑weirdness ⇒ ↑entropy."]
end class
Antonio Linares
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Re: Checking In / Is the Forum Active?
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2025 08:49 AM
Otto wrote: AI is noticeably reducing forum activity. In the Harbour/xBase/FiveWin world, a shared roadmap is missing. The question is: What goals should we set?
Dear Otto,

IMO our roadmap should be "adapt to change".

AI is changing everything and we must follow it.

To me this means: study it, find ways to apply it, find ways to use it to enhance what we have and use.

Some days ago I managed to fix a bug in hbmk2 for macOS. It was coded entirely by AI and worked fine. hbmk2.prg always seemed a scary beast (such a large PRG) and then suddenly, it was just a kids game for the AI :)
regards, saludos

Antonio Linares
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Antonio Linares
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Re: Checking In / Is the Forum Active?
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2025 08:55 AM
Anthropic's Lead Engineer Boris Cherny stated in a May 2025 podcast interview that about 80% of the code for Claude Code—a command-line tool powered by Claude 3.7 Sonnet for tasks like codebase analysis and multi-file edits—was generated by the AI itself, under human direction and review.
regards, saludos

Antonio Linares
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hmpaquito
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Re: Checking In / Is the Forum Active?
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2025 09:33 AM
Antonio Linares wrote:
Anthropic's Lead Engineer Boris Cherny stated in a May 2025 podcast interview that about 80% of the code for Claude Code—a command-line tool powered by Claude 3.7 Sonnet for tasks like codebase analysis and multi-file edits—was generated by the AI itself, under human direction and review.
Lo realmente curioso es que hasta ahora, o eso parece, nadie se ha atrevido a hacer ninguna modificacion/ mejora al core de Harbour con programacion IA. Tan poco interés hay en mejorar el core de Harbour ? Tan grande es el descrédito de decir que la IA ha generado el codigo ? Asi parece que, salvo la modificacion de Antonio en hbmk2, podemos afirmar sin equivocacion que por algun extraño sortilegio Harbour no se beneficiará del avance de la IAs. Seamos más puristas que nadie y volvamos al ensamblador.

BTW. También lo sugerí en el foro harbour. Ni un sólo comentario al respecto.


Here's the English translation:

What's really curious is that up until now, or so it seems, no one has dared to make any modification/improvement to Harbour's core with AI programming. Is there so little interest in improving Harbour's core? Is the discredit of saying that AI has generated the code so great? So it appears that except for Antonio's modification in hbmk2, we can affirm without error that by some strange spell Harbour will not benefit from the advancement of AIs.

BTW. I suggested it in the Harbour forum. Not a single comment about it.
Antonio Linares
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Re: Checking In / Is the Forum Active?
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2025 09:44 AM
Querido Paco,

Hace unos dias tras hablar con Manu Expósito, consulté a la IA como implementar soporte de llvm-clang para Harbour y comenzó a dar las pautas de los cambios necesarios, etc.

Hay muchĂ­simas posibilidades para usar la IA con Harbour, simplemente es que se den las circunstancias de necesidad + tiempo + ganas de hacerlo :wink:

También publique un primer prototipo de Clase Transformer funcional codificada con distintas IAs buscando simplicidad y rapidez en el código. Hoy tras ver el anuncio de los TRMs está claro que ya hay que orientarse hacia ellos. Este paper es el más importante de este año :idea:
https://forums.fivetechsupport.com/viewtopic.php?t=46014
regards, saludos

Antonio Linares
www.fivetechsoft.com
Antonio Linares
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Re: Checking In / Is the Forum Active?
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2025 09:47 AM
Para mi está muy claro que los desarrollos y mejoras futuras han de hacerse usando la IA :wink: :idea:

Estamos usando ya la IA en el repo de FWH y lo haremos cada vez más. Del mismo modo se irá usando en Harbour.

Tiempo al tiempo :wink:
regards, saludos

Antonio Linares
www.fivetechsoft.com
Otto
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Re: Checking In / Is the Forum Active?
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2025 10:21 AM
I rely on a primary AI (for me, ChatGPT). I use other models only as complements—for second opinions or special cases. I don’t let news and rankings rattle me: productivity comes from routine and a stable workflow.
https://forums.fivetechsupport.com/viewtopic.php?p=261013&hilit=prompt+editor#p261013



I keep a personal AI handbook where I record answers, procedures, explained terms, and decision notes—so it’s clear what I did and why, and I don’t have to start from scratch each time.
https://forums.fivetechsupport.com/viewtopic.php?p=279288&hilit=schreib#p279288

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