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Vista & Networking problems
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:36 PM

All,

We are experiencing a lot of problems with users using Vista and networking. When 2 users try to access the software in a shared folder on another computer the 2nd user locks up. Has anyone else experienced any problems networking with Vista?

Thanks,
Randal Ferguson

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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:12 PM

Randal,

Are all of them using Vista ?

What Vista version ? (32, Home, etc. )

regards, saludos

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Re: Vista & Networking problems
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:27 PM

Randal

It is sure that Vista is a problem under Network. Workstations are deadly slow but we are not experiencing locks (so far).

Richard

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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 02:39 PM

Antonio, Richard

All the computers are Vista, I'm not sure which version but I don't think the version is the issue. In this instance the user has 3 computers. 2 computers access a server through a mapped drive. If a user logs into the s/w from the server and one workstation it works fine. If a user logs into the s/w from one workstation, when a user tries to login from the other workstation it locks up. I believe there is a problem when 2 users try to lock a record in a shared folder.

This thread explains a similiar issue:

http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPo ... 7SiteID=1

I have other users with XP on the server and Vista on the workstations and this setup seems to work fine. It appears the problem is when all the computers are Vista and more than one workstation tries to open the software. In our network version users have to login with a user id and password. We have a user table and when the user logs in we lock that user record. When other users try to login we check each record in the user list to see if it's locked and count the number of locked user records to make sure the user is not exceeding the network license limit. It's during this process, when we try to lock each record to determine how many users are already logged in, that the software locks up. The problem is basically when a workstation tries to lock a record that is already locked by another workstation.

I'm really suprised no one hear appears to have encountered this issue yet.

Thanks,
Randal

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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 08:05 PM

To All

Running Vista Business RTM here on a Novell network with the Beta1 Novell Client .. having NO difficulties what-so-ever here .. running on cicso switches .. using xHarbour 99.70 and FWH27..

No conflicts with record locking or performance... be it a mapped drive or UNC access to the same application.

Rick Lipkin
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 09:57 PM

This appears to be a Vista Bug:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=935370

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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:14 PM

Is this a MS Acess database or are we talking .dbf ?

Rick Lipkin

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:46 AM

Rick,

Does your database reside on a Vista computer and are the workstations running Vista?

Regards,
Randal

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 01:56 AM

Rick,

>Is this a MS Acess database or are we talking .dbf ?

Although the article is about an Access file, I think it applies to any file. I saw a number of message threads on user groups about this. Even multiple users trying to access the same Word and Excel file caused a hang. So, I assume it would also happen with a DBF.

Since you are using Novell, Novell handles the file and record locking so it probably doesn't affect you. From what I read, it only happens in a shared folder on a Vista computer on a peer-to-peer network.

Its amazing that a bug this serious wasn't found and fixed in several years of beta testing.

James

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 01:15 PM

Randal

I was testing a ADO Access app I have been working on and wanted to see the visability of updates .. I have a peer to peer network at home and I put this application in my Vista PUBLIC folder and started the app and went downstaires to my wireless laptop with XP pro sp2 and opend the share and the application.

I did not see any problems with performance .. and as I changed records on my Vista box .. I went and paged up and down on the laptop .. and the browse records were all updated ..

The app did start a bit slow .. bit the recordset contains about 20k records .. but once the app got started .. did not have any locking or performance problems ..

Rick Lipkin

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 03:01 PM

Rick,

The problem I (and others) experienced occurrs when you have a shared folder on a Vista computer and two Vista workstations try to access the data at the same time. If you access the data from the Vista computer where the data resides and then from a Vista workstation it works ok.

So, in order to recreate the problem you need to have a 3rd computer. Run your ado app from the laptop and then try to access the same program from another Vista workstation, not the Vista computer where the software resides.

Thanks,
Randal

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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 08:31 PM

Hello Randal,
Did you found a solution for the network problem?

Regards,
Otto

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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 02:06 PM

Yes, vista does provide complications. However, I do believe you must run Business or Ultimate if you are networking an application. It seems to me I've seen notes on this from Microsoft in the past.

I always told my clients to use XP Pro, not Home, with a business application. The upgrade for Pro is Business. Unfortunately, many people buy computers with Vista Home Premium, and the only possible upgrade is to Ultimate.

Tim

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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 09:55 PM
Otto,

Sorry for the late reply. No, not yet. I'm sure this is an isolated case as we have many users running Win2003 server with XP workstations.

Thanks,
Randal

Otto wrote:Hello Randal,
Did you found a solution for the network problem?

Regards,
Otto

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