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Visual FiveWin from Manuel Mercado
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 06:00 PM

Manuel,

Many thanks for your excellent contributions, as usual :-)

Your application is with no doubt a very usefull tool and its source code surely is a great help for mastering FiveWin programming.

Regarding the designer itself, I see it uses the same model that Visual Objects used ("one way tool") which has a major problem: if the user wants to modify the form after the PRG has been modified with extra source code, this extra source code gets lost. Thats was the main complain about Visual Objects designer.

The benefit of using a resources file is, as you know, that if you decide to modify the dialogbox, you can do it, and it won't affect your existing PRG source code, asuming that a good programming style has been used in the PRG :-)

Even the "two way tools" implemented by Borland, have the problem that I describe above. They are not "clever" enough to detect what components names you have changed and where you are using them in your code, and how you are using them.

So meanwhile the computers don´t get smarter than programmers, we have to keep coding "by hand" as usual :-)

Its just my personal opinion, and we are open to listen all other opinions.

regards, saludos

Antonio Linares
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Visual FiveWin from Manuel Mercado
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 08:19 PM
Antonio Linares wrote:Regarding the designer itself, I see it uses the same model that Visual Objects used ("one way tool") which has a major problem: if the user wants to modify the form after the PRG has been modified with extra source code, this extra source code gets lost. Thats was the main complain about Visual Objects designer

Hi Antonio:

As i said at spanish forum, the final conceptualization of Visual Fivewin is 100% 2 way considering all of the project's components, including forms design and supplementary code.

Many thanks for your comments.

Best regards.

Manuel Mercado
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Visual FiveWin from Manuel Mercado
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 07:17 AM

IMO we should first agree on the formats to use:

In order to save forms to files ("serialization") and later restore them, I would propose to use XML as it will provide us the greatest freedom to extend our "serialization" model as much as needed.

i.e. Mac OSX NIB files use XML (they are named .pList files: "properties list") :-)

regards, saludos

Antonio Linares
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Visual FiveWin from Manuel Mercado
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 09:48 AM

Manuel,

vfw.exe is not working with XP64 or Vista64, is it still 16 bit ?

kind regards

Stefan
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Visual FiveWin from Manuel Mercado
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:08 PM
StefanHaupt wrote:vfw.exe is not working with XP64 or Vista64, is it still 16 bit ?

Yes Stephan, the first action when retaking the vfw projet will be the 32 bits convertion (not dificult).

Regards.

Manuel Mercado
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Visual FiveWin from Manuel Mercado
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 07:26 AM

Ok, thanks

kind regards

Stefan
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Visual FiveWin from Manuel Mercado
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 06:35 PM

Hello, if you interesting to convert to portuguese language, I can do that. I already did language conversion to other works, like xMate.
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